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Detroit:92 Series
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Smokey 8V92 |
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Thu Sep 9 10 8:12 AM |
Sep 7 2010
08:51 AM |
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Jchiswell
Have been asked to look at a smoking issue on an 8v92 twin turbo engine.
All air filters and fuel filters are clean as have only recently been replaced.
Problem has only just occured and have found ..... |
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Today
02:59 AM |
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Bilge Rat
Mate, not sure if this helps but I had a similar issue (6V92TT tonnes of smoke on start up, slowly dissipating after warm up, reduced revs but no overheating or other problems) and upon investigation ..... |
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Today
08:12 AM |
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Jchiswell
Hi Thanks for that, customer has made a comment that he seems to be loosing a bit of coolant as well. Have pressure tested the engine several times but have not had any drop in pressure but this has b..... |
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Caterpillar:3208 Series
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Lots of grey smoke |
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Thu Sep 9 10 6:47 AM |
Sep 3 2010
08:39 PM |
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Andre
This morning my starboard 3208TA 425hp started with more than usual white/light grey smoke and ran rough. Also after a few minutes getting out of the harbor it did not disappear. When throttleling up ..... |
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Sep 3 2010
08:45 PM |
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Captjohn
I´ve seen my engines do this when the fuel filters are clogged. Easy enough to pull the filter and have a look or just replace the primary and secondary filters to eliminate that as a possible cause...... |
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Sep 4 2010
12:37 PM |
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Andre
Thanks John,
Just pulled the filters and they are clean I´m afraid.
The possibilities I can think of now are:
- Something wrong in the fuel pump (although I´m not sure what);
- Stuck injector (I ..... |
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Sep 4 2010
09:24 PM |
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Captjohn
Andre
White smoke is typically unburnt fuel or engine coolant. If your not loosing coolant it´s probably fuel. Check to see if you have a cylinder that isn´t firing, you might be able to feel the e..... |
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Sep 5 2010
07:41 AM |
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Andre
It is definitely unburned fuel, not coolant. The white smoke is heavy, smells heavily and remains much longer than water vapor. We were lucky to have some no-wind weather, so it was very easy to notic..... |
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Sep 5 2010
11:10 AM |
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Jim
You may want to check the timing .auto advance may be wacked out |
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Sep 5 2010
01:01 PM |
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Randy Warden
Sounds like a head gasket leaking between the cylinders. Head gaskets are a fairly common problem on a 3208. Randy |
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Sep 5 2010
04:42 PM |
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Captjohn
Randy might be right, but I´d check the injectors and valves before pulling the head.
John |
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Sep 5 2010
04:54 PM |
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Ski in NC
Do a leak down test on that bank. Rocker shaft has to come out to pull injectors, so pull rocker shaft and the two suspect injectors. Just shoot compressed air in injector hole. If it blows out the..... |
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Sep 5 2010
05:05 PM |
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Andre
Thanks for all the tips guys.
Just pulled one of the two injectors. That was very difficult and was wandering if somebody has a better idea to:
- Pull the fuel line adaptor that runs through the cyl..... |
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Sep 5 2010
05:21 PM |
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Ski in NC
It is a pain to get that adapter out of the way. you need to disassemble some of the clamps and fuel lines to get adapter to slide enough.
Injectors sometimes are carbon bound and that makes it to..... |
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Sep 5 2010
08:07 PM |
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Andre
Thanks, will do the air test.
Also want to do compression testing. However I read somewhere else that these engines only have their operating compression when running? Seems odd to me because it must..... |
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Sep 7 2010
06:45 AM |
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Sep 7 2010
07:19 PM |
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Andre
Just got out the second Injector and it seems to be the head gasket.
When putting air on one cylinder it comes out the other cylinders injector hole immediately without much back pressure on the pump..... |
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Yesterday
12:00 AM |
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Warren the xJewelLure
I had the same thing happen a year ago on the same engines @ 4000 hours. Gasket went between the cylinders so no coolant was involved.
Are you going to do this job yourself? I have a little experi..... |
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Yesterday
11:37 PM |
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Andre
Warren,
Thanks for your help. I plan to do most myself...and have no experience with these specific motors. Hence I´m certainly interested in all tips you can give me.
Also looked at the post and ..... |
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Today
12:35 AM |
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Warren the xJewelLure
I don´t know when you are starting. I have only a little time now as a marlin tournament this weekend has me busy getting ready.
1. Drain coolant from everywhere you can imagine. Exhaust manifolds,..... |
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Today
06:47 AM |
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Andre
Thanks, this is already very helpful. I have experience with installing the aftercooler/air intake manifold and ful pump. I know it is very cramped down there :-(
Hope to get started this weekend, bu..... |
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Steyr
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Steyr Marine Diesel Pump Duse 2 stage injectors |
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Thu Sep 9 10 4:39 AM |
Feb 3 2010
02:30 PM |
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Joseph Michael
I have recently been experiencing white smoke out of the exhaust, which looks and smells like unburnt fuel. The engine was not lossing power, either at idle nor when revving up under load, just the w..... |
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Sep 7 2010
12:24 AM |
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Salvino
My Steyr engines, 246´s built in 2002 started burning a quart of oil every hour and smoking horribly after six months. It took them years to admit it was their problem. I have the service bulletin if ..... |
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Sep 7 2010
01:34 AM |
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Tony Athens
Salvino,
An interesting post, but with so little of what has actually transpired over the last 7+ yrs, I wonder if the point you are trying to make will have the impact you want..
When you dea..... |
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Sep 7 2010
06:42 AM |
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Robert Hess
"...I tried the 10micron filter but the filter clogged up after about 10hrs of running..."
Once somebody from Steyr reads your post suggesting that you have a tankful of whatever clogged ..... |
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Sep 7 2010
10:15 AM |
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Joseph Michael
I feel I have to provide an update to this thread. As stated earlier, the 246 was fitted with new injectors. I then put in a new Racor fuel system fitted with a 2 micron filter. The engine runs per..... |
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Yesterday
05:49 AM |
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Salvino
Tony,
I agree the owner needs to be sure there is support in place. Steyr had a large distributor in Auburn, WA when I bought the engines. They were approved for the application by the builder, Max..... |
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Today
04:39 AM |
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Tony D
Good lord. Next to no water holding capacity. Problem recurrs in under 200 hours. |
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Transmissions:Velvet Drive/Borg Warner
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What Broke? |
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Thu Sep 9 10 4:33 AM |
Sep 6 2010
04:31 PM |
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Alan E. Blankenship
1976 Tollycraft 34 Sedan
Velvet Drive 72C V Drive
6.2L Detroits by Covington Diesel
About 5700 hours on engines (trannys might have been rebuilt prior to my ownership)
Original repower done in lat..... |
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Sep 6 2010
09:59 PM |
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David Bourgeois
Alan, If the gear is directly bolted to the engine, then my first thought is that you blew some springs from your drive plate. Remove the gear, and take a look, this is likley the problem. Remove, mea..... |
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Yesterday
08:51 PM |
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Alan E. Blankenship
David,
Thanks for the reply. I am hoping the noise I heard is springs against the teeth as opposed to spline breakage. I´ve only got an inch or less between the v drive and bulkhead so it looks lik..... |
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Yesterday
10:00 PM |
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David Bourgeois
Alan, I cannot offer much help with moving the engine as I dont know what you have for a boat or room. Just make sure that all supports and lifting points and gear are rated for the job.
As far as t..... |
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Today
04:33 AM |
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Alan E. Blankenship
Wow, went down to the boat after work today and started preparing everything to attack this, and.........I´m going to go to plan B. Just doing what I did tonight was hard on my back, and basically I ..... |
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Yanmar:LH Series
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Better Yanmar Fuel/Oil Filters? |
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Thu Sep 9 10 4:16 AM |
Yesterday
02:24 AM |
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Yanmar cruiser
I remember seeing that there is an alternative to the messy cartridge fuel filters on 4LHA-STE Yanmars. I believe a good quality spin-on filter makes more sense. Is there such an animal? How about ..... |
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Yesterday
03:25 AM |
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Tony D
Stick with the Yanmar oil filter! Just because the threads match does not mean a filter that will x-ref will do the same thing. Just plain cheap insurance.
As far as the fuek filter, What is your..... |
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Yesterday
05:41 PM |
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Yanmar cruiser
I have Racor 500´s with vacuum gauges on top (my boat has twins). My problem was with the on engine cartridge filter. Last year when changing it I believe a chip of the grey Yamnar paint from the ed..... |
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Today
04:16 AM |
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Tony D
http://sbmar.com/Products/SM-FF_Main.php
I used one of his kits. You order it with the the correct size hose barbs, vac gauge, etc. I unbolted the racor and threw it out. Bolted the Seaboard uni..... |
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Generators:Cummins/Onan
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Unknown Onan Genset |
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Thu Sep 9 10 3:48 AM |
Today
03:48 AM |
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Bilge Rat
I have a Onan Genset in a 42 Bertram that I have yet to obtain a certain opinion on model number and output and considering the vessel came from the US, thought someone might be able to assist. I was ..... |
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Cummins:B Series
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Solenoid Stop (fuel shutoff) Valve |
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Thu Sep 9 10 2:19 AM |
Yesterday
02:56 PM |
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Steve Littman
Underway @ 14 knots in heavy seas (35´ Duffy, Cummins 370B 5.9), engine stalls, then continues to try to crank even after key is turned off. After about 10 seconds, the solenoid stop (fuel shutoff) va..... |
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Today
01:54 AM |
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Tony Athens
Sounds like is 100% related to an electrical issue..........Wet, corroded, rusty, loose or?? wires, connections, etc..... Post some clear pics showing that side of the engine and we´ll start there.. A..... |
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Today
02:19 AM |
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F.C.Lowell
Steve, where are you located. I am in Woods Hole, also have Duffy 35/B300.
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Caterpillar:3208 Series
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Difference between cat 3208 (375 hp) and (450 hp) |
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Thu Sep 9 10 1:18 AM |
Sep 5 2010
04:07 AM |
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Jamaicanjames
Good evening all.
I was wondering if anyone could enlighten me as to the differences between the 375 and the 450 versions of the cat 3208 ta engines.
Can the 375´s be upgraded to higher out put..... |
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Sep 5 2010
04:21 PM |
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Dave
I´ve posted this a few times. These are the parts that must be changed to rerate a 375HP 3208 to 450HP (or 435HP): pistons, cylinder heads, complete injection pump, complete aftercooler assembly, cran..... |
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Yesterday
10:54 AM |
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Jamaicanjames
Thank you much Dave.....
Do you by any slim chance know where I could get a list of part numbers so as to get a quote on these items?
Thanks again
John |
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Today
01:18 AM |
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Dave
The cost of all the items to rerate to 435HP is more than the cost of a new engine. However, if still interested, I´d need your current engine serial number. |
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Caterpillar:3208 Series
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Sporadic starter problem |
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Thu Sep 9 10 12:06 AM |
Sep 1 2010
07:46 PM |
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CocoRum
Hi all,
I have had now for the second time a funny starter problem on my 3208 TA engine with 2000h. It just did not start, when I pressed the starrt button, just made a click. After fiddling around w..... |
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Yesterday
01:18 AM |
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Joe Fanelli
clean the ground cables on the starter and battery. I had same issue a few years back. I laid under the fishbox in my cockpit armed with hammer and flashlight...planning to tap, prod, poke to figure..... |
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Yesterday
08:47 PM |
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Synelecpb
BTW, have you tried starting the motors a bunch of times with low battery voltage lately? That causes arcing in the solenoids and requires removal and cleaning of the inside of the starter solenoid to..... |
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Today
12:06 AM |
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Fishn2day
Cranking with low voltage will cause starter armature to overheat and throw solder off commutator connections. Tune up on solenoid connections should include file contact ends on posts and turn strike..... |
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Volvo:D6 Series
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D6-DPH Barnacles |
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Wed Sep 8 10 11:35 PM |
Yesterday
11:35 PM |
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TJ Butler
Engine and drive all running fine but we had a quick stretch of hot water here in the North East and the Barnacles on my drive got out of control.
I have two questions.
1) Is there a good primer..... |
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Detroit:71 Series
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Where to buy parts for Detroit Diesel 6-71... anywhere online is fine. |
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Wed Sep 8 10 10:53 PM |
Yesterday
10:45 PM |
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Van
Where can I get some parts for these? I need a oil pan and an expansion tank. I think that´s what it´s called anyhow.. I need a good dealer that can help me get the right parts as I´m not in the US. |
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Yesterday
10:53 PM |
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Cobrajoe
I deal with Fairhaven Shipyard for my Detroit Parts.
50 Fort St
Fairhaven MA 02719
508-999-1600
http://www.fairhavenshipyard.com/ |
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Caterpillar:3208 Series
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Catrtpillar 3208 Air Filters - replacement or cleaning? |
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Wed Sep 8 10 10:41 PM |
Apr 28 2010
01:27 PM |
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D Boater
Hello,
I am debating whether to replace or just clean the foam-like air filters on my Cat 3208´s? Can anyone tell me whether I can simply clean (they do not look too bad, but it has been a long wh..... |
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Yesterday
04:47 PM |
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Walker Airsep Factory Direct
Another choice....Walker just expanded their line of "High-Air" Performance air filters to include two new air filters for CAT 3208TA 375 & 435/450HP marine diesel engines.
They are desig..... |
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Yesterday
10:41 PM |
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Captjohn
What do they cost?
John |
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Volvo:D3 Series
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Throttle range adjustment |
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Wed Sep 8 10 10:16 PM |
Sep 7 2010
06:49 PM |
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Delta295
I´m having troubles with throttle setup.
The problem is that in the first half of my throttle range the engine does not respond at all. It runs 700 rpm during that moment. Then it picks up so quick..... |
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Yesterday
03:14 AM |
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Spark1
Are they EVC controls ?
Very easy to re calibrate if EVC. Got to read about exact proceedure, mechanic made it look so easy. Turned key to mid position, hit the D & N button on the EVC, and moved s..... |
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Yesterday
11:46 AM |
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Delta
Hello Spark1
It has EVC control and all of the other calibrations are easy to make, like trim, fuellevel calibration and so on, but it shows no possibility to calibrate the shift lever. So I though..... |
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Yesterday
12:00 PM |
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Spark1
Whatever he did it worked. My reverse on STB has not failed since. Get a Volvo guy to stop by on next trip into your marina, shouldn´t be murder on cost, just a few minutes and he was done. I will loo..... |
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Yesterday
10:16 PM |
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Spark1
Found these on line ... never posted here before ... see what happens.
Hope they are useful for you. See attached PDFs, I save a copy if they disapear. |
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Generators:Kohler
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Oil Filter Cross Reference For Kohler |
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Wed Sep 8 10 10:06 PM |
Sep 7 2010
12:18 PM |
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Floatingdoc
i have a 13 eozd. I was wondering if anyone had a source for x ref oil filters from kohler oem filters to say napa ? Any help appreciated. I believe the actual kohler filter is 252834. |
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Sep 7 2010
01:54 PM |
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Saylpal
Hey Doc, Most of the major filter companies have Cross reference on their websites,pick a brand and chase your numbers, happy hunting, |
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Yesterday
10:06 PM |
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Spark1
Hey Float -Doc ...
My 10 eozd uses a NAPA Gold 1334, may be same on yours if engine is same (Yanmar)
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Generators:Northern Lights
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Lugger / Northern Lights 843 oil level rising |
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Wed Sep 8 10 9:10 PM |
Yesterday
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Jhall767
I have a lugger model 843 12K generator. The oil level has started to rise. The oil is still clean but I´m assuming it´s getting fuel into it somehow. I´m sending off an oil sample to be sure. Wha..... |
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Yesterday
04:39 AM |
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Ski in NC
First best guess the little diaphragm fuel lift pump. Next, injection pump or injectors. Check lift pump first, or just replace. |
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Yesterday
12:09 PM |
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Jhall767
Thanks for the quick response. If I pull off the lift pump will I be able to see the problem or is there a test. Is there a gasket to replace if I pull the pump off to look at it? I only have the o..... |
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Yesterday
03:10 PM |
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Jhall767
Called nearest Northern Lights dealer. Fuel lift pump is $544. Does that sound reasonable? I think I´ll verify that it is bad before replacing.
Thanks
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Yesterday
05:23 PM |
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Ski in NC
Engine is a Shibaura, used in little tractors. A little net sleuthing might find one at a tractor supply place.
To test the pump you will need some banjo fittings or take the pump fittings off the..... |
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Yesterday
06:16 PM |
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Jhall767
Thanks for the tip. I was thinking it would be a lot less money and I guess you were to. I´ve attached the pages out of my parts book just to be sure we´re talking about the same thing.
Looks to ..... |
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Yesterday
07:17 PM |
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Injection55
It´s common on those injector pumps to pass fuel into the oil they have some o´rings inside that get hard and brittle and no longer do their job, I would try to pressure or vaccum test the lift pump f..... |
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Yesterday
09:10 PM |
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Ski in NC
John, that´s a completely different engine than the one I was looking at. Ignore the part number I posted. |
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