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Cummins:B Series -
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Oil Analysis Opionions |
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Fri Nov 20 09 5:12 PM |
Nov 18 2009
04:34 PM |
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Gary_2
Hi,
I had a survey done last week along with an oil analysis. The boat is a 32 ft ~13,000 lbs, modified v (~18 degrees dead rise). 12ft beam with a small bridge. The engines are 1985 Cummins 6-BT 2..... |
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Nov 18 2009
08:41 PM |
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Maka Koa
There is lots to read about oil samples (do a search).
I went through the same thing and had an oil sample done when I bought my boat & then again at 50 hours after an oil change.
Your oil sampl..... |
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Nov 18 2009
08:47 PM |
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Maka Koa
Sorry to get so wordy...one more thing...
In my opinion (sorry to offend anyone). Screw the surveyor, it was a waste of money. If I had it to do all over again, I would take a well qualified Cummi..... |
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Nov 19 2009
01:08 PM |
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Gary_2
Thanks for the feed back Maka.
I did do a search prior to posting. But, didn´t find much specifically on actual readings. I did get the message that most feel a single test isn´t worth much. But, I..... |
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Nov 19 2009
07:34 PM |
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Paul Foulston
This is EXACTLY what pisses me me off about worthless one off oil sampling, more questions asked than answers given.
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Nov 19 2009
09:41 PM |
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Maka Koa
One sample won´t tell you enough.
Low RPM?
1. Is the boat Propped Right?
2. Clean Bottom & Running Gear?
3. Clean Aftercoolers, Heat Exchangers?
4. Clean Fuels Filters, Good fuel?
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Nov 19 2009
10:07 PM |
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Lijoe
What a single oil sample is really good for is showing if the is fuel, coolant or seawater in the oil, all of which are problems in need of attention - what it won´t do is tell you much about the inte..... |
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Nov 19 2009
10:32 PM |
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Bill D l
yup wasted $$dough$$ on an oil sample.
Of course, being new to used diesel ownership...I had an oil sample done before I bought my Blackfin with used (550 hr.) 6BTA 370s.
Oil analysis came back OK...... |
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Gary_2
Hi Bill,
By "marine age" on the hang ons do you mean the age of the accessories(water pump, turbo, fuel system)?
Thanks,
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Yesterday
05:12 PM |
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Bill D l
Yes, a "Tony Athens" term!
I roasted a 6B 370 Aug 08 do to marine age. 2 bolts snapped off the belt idler pulley, lost the engine coolant..Poof!
I think you realize that the 6B base engine..... |
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Volvo:40,41,42,43,44 Series -
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41p Oil Pressure |
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Fri Nov 20 09 3:51 PM |
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Cat-man
What would be the ideal oil pressure on these motors that are warmed up, under a load and the outside air temp 45f degrees?
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Yesterday
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Karl
Cat-man,
The spec states: "Oil pressure, hot engine, operating speed: 59.7 - 92.5 psi"
My take on this: Operating speed = 3,000+
My experience is that under these conditions you typic..... |
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General Diesel: General -
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Fresh Water Flush with Saltaway? |
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Fri Nov 20 09 3:14 PM |
Nov 19 2009
04:38 AM |
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Bill Waters
Fresh water flushing has been a popular topic over the years. I found the Salt Away company makes a handy little unit that will allow a small amount of their SaltAway product to be introduced into the..... |
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Nov 19 2009
05:52 PM |
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Tony D
OK, you could .. but why? Getting the salt water out and the fresh water in is what is important. If you have salt and mineral built up, this may help clean a little of it out, but it won´t clean 5 ..... |
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Nov 19 2009
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Tomas Kempe
Salt-Away I have seen discussed before and imply that you get rid of salts - on the contrary you are adding salts - as corrosion inhibitors. Why else are they that secretive, it would destroy the imag..... |
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Yesterday
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Carlf
One of my neighbors at the marina has used Salt Away for years to wash down his 60´ trawler after being out for awhile. He highly recommends it based on actual, vs theoretical, experience. It is unc..... |
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Yesterday
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Tomcat
I use saltaway to rinse my boat ,it eliminates salt buildup and film its pretty amazing. On a old heavy caked crusty buildup it does not do much. |
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Cummins:B Series -
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CPL 2208´s: New turbocators installed |
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Fri Nov 20 09 2:54 PM |
Nov 9 2009
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Timothy H Fanney
CPL 2208/370B´s. 9 years old, 1875 hours. Just installed turbocators. Hull cleaned. Water temp 57 deg. Normal fuel load. Minimal smoke and strong pull thru rpm range getting on plan. No load rpm-3300...... |
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Nov 16 2009
10:51 PM |
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Timothy H Fanney
Clark, thanks for the reply. Very familiar with the aftercooler maintenance from Tony. Mine are due for it this spring. I use Tony´s envirovent system so they should be very clean on the air side, but..... |
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Nov 16 2009
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Bill D l
Tim, I installed like new 370s in my Blackfin this past spring. From hour one of intall, and the engines are basically new REMANS, the turbocators and EGT were as follows.
875 EGT from 2200 to WOT 30..... |
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Yesterday
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Timothy H Fanney
Appreciate the replies. I´ll be doing my aftercoolers this coming March. I´ll re-check boost/EGT then and probably rebuild the turbos if I don´t get to 30 boost and lower my EGT
tim |
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Iveco: General -
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Iveco 8061 SRM01 |
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Fri Nov 20 09 2:54 PM |
Oct 2 2009
02:24 PM |
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Ken
Can i get any help what so ever with my engine. I have no info what so ever about the engine. |
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Yesterday
02:54 PM |
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David Narby
Hi ken. i just got rid of a pair of 8061 SRM 3010´s. what do you want to know. PS I have lots of spair parts!
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Cummins:B Series -
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330 BTA Hard Starting |
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Fri Nov 20 09 1:23 PM |
Nov 18 2009
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Rwil
Engines have 1600hrs and when cold below 60 deg port starts hard with lots of smoke runs ok once warmed up normal smoke and power. When warm starts ok. This has gotten worse from 500 hrs. Could an in..... |
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Nov 18 2009
01:29 PM |
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Tony Athens
The #1 reason a diesel starts easily is the heat that is generated during the compression of air in the cylinder and then the "quality of fuel" that is sent into that heated air. Lower that..... |
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Nov 18 2009
01:39 PM |
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Maka Koa
"The simple solution to mitigate the issue is to add heat to your engine BEFORE your start--Consider adding 250W´s to the oil pan 24-7-365 when at the dock.. That will give your engine an instant..... |
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Nov 18 2009
02:01 PM |
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Jim D
Tony is referring to a Wolverine 250W Model 16 oil pan heater - they glue to the bottom of your oil pan and keep the engine toasty warm and make for easy starting all the time - We even eliminated our..... |
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Nov 18 2009
05:27 PM |
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Rwil
Tony thanks for your reply. I have mitigated the problem with heat as you describe. Since the Port engine runs good full power no oil usage or other fluid issues and the Starboard engine seems to be ..... |
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Nov 18 2009
05:58 PM |
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Jay Leonard
Don´t overlook a battery just starting to get weak. I have been there many times with 6BTs in trucks. The battery can test "good" by a conventional mechanics load tester, but be weak enough ..... |
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Nov 18 2009
06:10 PM |
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Rwil
Yes the engine battery starts both engines is fairly new and in listing seems to turn both engines the same. The starboard engine starts easy even when faily cold. |
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Nov 19 2009
02:04 AM |
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Tony Athens
If you want to eliminate cranking speed as the culprit, there is really only one way.. Pull the fuel solenoid circuit, be ready to strobe the engine, and crank it-----------150 or more RPM is the numb..... |
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Nov 19 2009
03:40 AM |
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Bill D l
Rwil, it´s ALL about heat in the engine before starting..+ a combination of other minor "old age/hours" issues as Tony stated.
Tony provided me with a pr. of 250 watt block heaters for my 3..... |
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Nov 19 2009
07:30 AM |
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Paul Foulston
We need to get some facts straight.
B is an easy starting direct injection engine, I do not have spec to hand as you have not posted your CPL but so I cannot quote your spec for unaided cold start ..... |
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Nov 19 2009
07:43 AM |
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Viku
I had the same problem with my CPL970 - difficult starting when cold, full power and no smoking when warm. The reason appeared to be worn exhaust valve seats. After cylinder head repair it now starts ..... |
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Nov 19 2009
01:15 PM |
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Rwil
Paul thanks for your reply. I have had this boat since 500hrs. My temps here in Ky go from teens in winter to 80-90´s summer. I keep heat on engines below 50 deg. Engines are run year round except i..... |
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Yesterday
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Frank Gee
Hi Rwil:
I don´t know if this applies to your situation, but if the engine oil hasn´t been changed in a while, and has accumulated significant hours past the maintenance spec interval, that can be ..... |
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Yesterday
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Paul Foulston
Frank,
Simple answer is no, lube does not break down.
"B is real sensitive to drawing air back up the return line if fuel system not 100% and will certainly cause symptoms you speak of&quo..... |
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Yesterday
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Rwil
I sure appreciate all the feedback on this issue that is what makes this site so great. As for engine service the engine oil has been changed every 100-150hrs.
Paul not sure I understand your comme..... |
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Yesterday
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Rwil
Sorry I re-read Paul´s oil comment and understand what he is saying. Can anyone also comment on the question of "could an injector leak off after shut down causing to much fuel in a cylinder&quo..... |
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Transmissions:ZF Marine -
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Hurth Slow Response Forward |
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Fri Nov 20 09 11:48 AM |
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Andreas
Hey i got a problem with my forward gear.if i go slow forward the gear does not shift in instantly,i got to alter the revs and slow down again
than it klicks in,i had it open and cecked the traktion ..... |
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Perkins:6.354 Series -
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Aluminum Cooler Housing repair |
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Fri Nov 20 09 11:09 AM |
Nov 18 2009
12:35 PM |
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(Jim) Anderson Diesel
I repair aluminum coolers. These pics are before and after repairs.
Tel. (941) 720-2352 |
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Nov 18 2009
01:05 PM |
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Tony Athens
Jim,
Looks like you spend quite a bit of time grinding out the old, welding up the damage, welding some more, and then remachining.... Welding up dirty cast aluminun is no easy task. A much neede..... |
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Nov 19 2009
11:17 AM |
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Jim
Tony..I can do almost any aluminun housing .Perkins is the most popular |
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Nov 19 2009
12:48 PM |
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Jay Leonard
Jim,
You should consider joining the Mainship owner´s group in Yahoo and making a post there. Most of the older Mainships have Perkins enignes if they still have original power. Many repower due to t..... |
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Yesterday
11:09 AM |
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Jim Anderson
I will try and find it .Thanks for the info |
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Yanmar:LY Series -
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Mechanical Oil Pressure Gauge |
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Fri Nov 20 09 2:08 AM |
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Ed
I have a yanmar 6ly 2a ste and want to hook up a mechanical gauge to motor with a four foot tube to mount on a bulkhead. Where can I hook into oil system? |
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Yesterday
02:08 AM |
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Tony Athens
Ed,
Look at the picture... You have an "oil block" that is easy to "T" in to.. Remember, NO cheesy brass fitting--use only hydraulic quality fittings..
Tony |
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TAMD 41P Turbo impellar question |
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Thu Nov 19 09 11:58 PM |
Nov 18 2009
03:37 PM |
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Bmac
So the little crappy stud that screws into the air filter bracket rattled out and bounced around on the impeller vanes of the turbo. Luckily it didnt suck it in. The vanes are pretty bent up. I con..... |
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Nov 19 2009
12:01 AM |
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Jay Leonard
Try High Tech Turbo. Google them and you´ll find their web address. |
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Nov 19 2009
01:40 AM |
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Todd Barnes
Bmac,
Post the part number from your turbo and I can help you out with a compressor wheel
Regards, Todd |
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Nov 19 2009
02:57 PM |
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Bmac
Thanks,
I got this from the Volvopenta store website. I need part # 27. Turbocharger, Components: 861260 |
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Nov 19 2009
02:59 PM |
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Bmac
Todd,
let me know if you need anymore info. I was planning on just removing the "cold side" and removing the nut that holds the wheel on. The turbos only have 800hrs and i really dont ne..... |
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Nov 19 2009
11:58 PM |
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Todd Barnes
Brett,
Compressor wheel is on its way. Any questions don´t hesitate to contact me.
Regards, Todd |
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Generators:Cummins/Onan -
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MDKAL Stopping Issue |
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Thu Nov 19 09 11:11 PM |
Aug 1 2009
07:14 AM |
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Brad
Boat has recently been out of the water for antifouling. First time starting generator (MDKAL) after this it ran for a few minutes and then stopped. It then restarted once and ran for about 30 seconds..... |
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Nov 19 2009
11:05 AM |
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Brad
Would love some advise on this one, as you can see it is quite a while since this happened and in that time after contacting 4 repairs (which I think is all of them in this town) I have managed to onl..... |
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Nov 19 2009
03:57 PM |
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Bushelsoffun
Brad,
I had a MDKWB with the same problem. The unit would start and run just a few seconds and then trip the breaker on the unit. When reset the gen. would start and run a few seconds again befo..... |
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Nov 19 2009
04:03 PM |
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Bushelsoffun
Brad,
The fuel pump was not very expensive and was easy to replace on my unit. It has been running fine ever since.
Greg |
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Nov 19 2009
05:54 PM |
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Ski in NC
Stator can be tested using a good quality digital ohm meter, but you really need to be well versed in ac electrical machines, and have a manual to make a conclusive diagnosis.
If windings smoked,..... |
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Nov 19 2009
11:11 PM |
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Brad
Thanks for the replies, I assume I could get an electrical type (auto or refridge etc) to do the test if I am not sure myself, does anyone know if the appropriate manual is available to purchase as an..... |
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Lazy Tach |
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Thu Nov 19 09 10:56 PM |
Nov 10 2009
02:39 PM |
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Cat-man
Looking for suggestions where to start.
My starboard tach does not come on until I get it above 2500 rpms(port)
Then works fine even when I go below 2500 rpms. Is this a bad tach or a bad conne..... |
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Nov 17 2009
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Cat-man
Guys
Thanks for the ideas. Found a broken wire to the alternator.
It was the brown wire to D post (tough to read)´
W terminal was fine. Repaired d and all is well.
Can you tell me which each let..... |
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Nov 19 2009
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Gordy88
Hello
The D terminal is the warning wire and also the exiter wire. When the ignition is on and engine not running, the D terminal is -12v (negative) and is the negative for the battery warning ligh..... |
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Nov 19 2009
10:56 PM |
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Cat-man
Gordon
thanks -- the more info the better
cat-man |
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General Diesel: General -
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A bump over to the Boat Forum |
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Thu Nov 19 09 10:36 PM |
Nov 18 2009
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Bill D l
Hi guys. I posted a question on a vintage Gray Marine six banger gasser on the Boat Forum.
SN# and all.
My marina owner pulled it out of a 1931 Chris Craft Runabout. I think is most likely a 2nd eng..... |
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Nov 19 2009
11:57 AM |
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Lijoe
Bill don´t know anyting about the engine, but you are right it is a re-power. Chris Craft built (marinized) all its own gas engines until about 1979. |
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Nov 19 2009
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Bill D l
Lijoe, yes, the owner is just tryin to find out the year of manufacter of the Gray Marine.
Bill D. |
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Cummins:C Series -
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Aftercoolers |
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Thu Nov 19 09 10:26 PM |
Nov 13 2009
06:48 PM |
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Vic
I recently pulled my aftercoolers for service and was a bit dismayed to say the least. Between the slugging to get the cores out and the visible corrosion on the casing I knew there was going to be so..... |
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Nov 19 2009
10:26 PM |
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Rhc
Very nice pics.
Great patience with reshaping and blending the jb welding back to the original surface. |
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Yanmar:LY Series -
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6LYA Fuel Filters |
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Thu Nov 19 09 10:20 PM |
Nov 12 2009
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Rhc
Is there a spin on replacement or aftermarket fuel filter set up to replace the original metal drop bowl and paper element set up?
They are a bit of a pain and mess to change, just wondering if the..... |
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Nov 14 2009
03:24 AM |
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Tony Athens
Here are a couple of pics taken at 3300 hours / about 2 years ago.. Still the original filter in these pics. I chose the Fleetguard FS1000 as it used as the final filter on a QSM so I know it will pro..... |
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Nov 16 2009
08:30 PM |
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Eddy G.
Thanks Tony for the additional pics. Now I see where the return lines are connected. The filter block in your picture would be easily adaptable to the 4LHa´s. A small sturdy piece of aluminum angle..... |
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Nov 17 2009
04:56 AM |
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Tony D
Now here is a nasty little thought. I have "forgotten" about the cartridge filter because I have a Seaboard FF5013/1000 as my primary filter bank, then on to the engine and that little filt..... |
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Nov 17 2009
01:46 PM |
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Tony Athens
Tony,
The Yanmar filter cartridge should last for years.. It will not degrade with time.. Go fishing and don´t worry. you´ll be fine..
Tony |
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Nov 17 2009
01:58 PM |
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Got Diesel
You have the best fuel going to the Yanmar filter, and yes the filter will not degrade for years. But keep in mind as the engine is not used or stored the Yanmar filter is little difference than the ..... |
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Nov 18 2009
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Nov 19 2009
10:20 PM |
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Rhc
What´s this talk about the secondary/engine filter lasting for years.
If I´m not mistaken the engine filter cartridge is 10u while the primary is supposed to be a 30u, meaning the engine filter wil..... |
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