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General Diesel: General -
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Fresh Water Flush with Saltaway? |
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Fri Nov 20 09 3:14 PM |
Nov 19 2009 04:38 AM |
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Bill Waters
Fresh water flushing has been a popular topic over the years. I found the Salt Away company makes a handy little unit that will allow a small amount of their SaltAway product to be introduced into the..... |
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Nov 19 2009 05:52 PM |
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Tony D
OK, you could .. but why? Getting the salt water out and the fresh water in is what is important. If you have salt and mineral built up, this may help clean a little of it out, but it won´t clean 5 ..... |
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Nov 19 2009 08:14 PM |
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Tomas Kempe
Salt-Away I have seen discussed before and imply that you get rid of salts - on the contrary you are adding salts - as corrosion inhibitors. Why else are they that secretive, it would destroy the imag..... |
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Carlf
One of my neighbors at the marina has used Salt Away for years to wash down his 60´ trawler after being out for awhile. He highly recommends it based on actual, vs theoretical, experience. It is unc..... |
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Tomcat
I use saltaway to rinse my boat ,it eliminates salt buildup and film its pretty amazing. On a old heavy caked crusty buildup it does not do much. |
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General Diesel: General -
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A bump over to the Boat Forum |
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Thu Nov 19 09 10:36 PM |
Nov 18 2009 10:59 PM |
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Bill D l
Hi guys. I posted a question on a vintage Gray Marine six banger gasser on the Boat Forum.
SN# and all.
My marina owner pulled it out of a 1931 Chris Craft Runabout. I think is most likely a 2nd eng..... |
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Nov 19 2009 11:57 AM |
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Lijoe
Bill don´t know anyting about the engine, but you are right it is a re-power. Chris Craft built (marinized) all its own gas engines until about 1979. |
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Nov 19 2009 10:36 PM |
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Bill D l
Lijoe, yes, the owner is just tryin to find out the year of manufacter of the Gray Marine.
Bill D. |
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General Diesel:Fuel Systems -
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Fuel Starvation - loss of RPM |
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Nov 15 2009 03:14 AM |
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Steve D.
I was returning today from Catalina Island back to Long Beach, (about a 25nm run) and my Volvo AD41 experienced a loss of RPM from 3300 to 2900. When pushing the throttles forward the engine still di..... |
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Nov 15 2009 08:08 AM |
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hugh C. Brock
I am assuming that there wasn´t any extra smoke coming out the exhaust. You probably aren´t getting enough fuel. I would suggest a vacuum gauge on the filters. Pull the fuel filters on the racor and..... |
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Nov 15 2009 06:38 PM |
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Steve D.
I´ll get the vacuum gauge for the filters, and try out the thirty micron filter. Can you recommend a good vacuum gauge and where to order it. |
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Nov 15 2009 08:57 PM |
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hugh C. Brock
I am assuming that you have a racor or other primary filter before the fuel reaches the engine. If you have such a filter, Is it s racor and does it have a "T" handle on top of the filter t..... |
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Nov 15 2009 11:50 PM |
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Steve D.
The racor has a T-handle, and on the engine is the next filter. |
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Nov 16 2009 05:59 AM |
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hugh C. Brock
Racor makes a vacuum gauge that goes into the "T" handle. that would be the first thing to do so we make sure that we are on the right track. After this incident the vacuum gauge will also..... |
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Nov 16 2009 08:40 PM |
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Steve D.
I´m going to replace the filters and install a vacuum gauge. After that I should have a better idea of what is going on with the fuel system. |
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Nov 16 2009 10:01 PM |
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Got Diesel
Don´t use a 2 mic. filter it can induce air into the system, if you want a smaller one use a 10 mic. |
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Nov 17 2009 12:06 AM |
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hugh C. Brock
I don´t understand how a two micron filter would induce air in the system?
why don´t you email: racor tech @ parker.com |
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Nov 17 2009 12:29 AM |
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Blackfinmike
Maybe I´m wrong but a volvo is a diesel and a dirty tank is a dirty tank, Why has nobody spoken of multi stage fuel filtering and spelled out the correct way. I will only say go, before you take some ..... |
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Nov 17 2009 12:46 AM |
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Got Diesel
Brock, Racor is the one that confirmed this with the research I did. Do a search on the subject on this site with me as the poster. As Flow Scan well tell you to use not anything smaller than a 10 mic..... |
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Nov 17 2009 01:05 AM |
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Got Diesel
Ever think why all Sec. filters on the engine are under pressure? |
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Nov 17 2009 04:40 AM |
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Tony Athens
Tim,
Be careful here, although I know you are passionate about Racors and will stand your ground.......You have others watching ...... Look closely at the QSM on engine "last chance filter&qu..... |
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Nov 17 2009 08:27 AM |
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Tomas Kempe
First time I see this: Fleetguard FS 1000/1009 on QSM is that good. Your filtration system Tony is a good piece with them. I have one 10 micron Racor and one 30 micron, that I can switch between, do n..... |
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Nov 17 2009 01:08 PM |
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Got Diesel
I think you have experienced it Tony, When you changed a pri. filter that was so bad it stopped the engine, you pop the top off and and the fuel is half way down the filter housing, Where did the air..... |
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Nov 17 2009 01:11 PM |
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Got Diesel
It has nothing to do with who is watching, this is a fact at 15" Hg air comes out of the fuel! I don´t care what filter or no filter. And with my eyes I have seen a Racor 30 mic filter make air..... |
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Nov 17 2009 01:41 PM |
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Got Diesel
Tony as much work as you have done on filters I take you´re word that the Fleetguard does a better job, I have no issues with that. I myself like the Racor for the pri filter, it´s easy to work with..... |
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Nov 17 2009 05:20 PM |
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Stup430
Primer bulb collapsed, Racor after bulb, opened deck fill and bulb expands. Maybe tank vent is clogged. |
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Nov 17 2009 05:31 PM |
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Tony Athens
Tim,
What to you tell a guy (there are 100´s or even 1000´s of them)that has been using a Racor 1000FG and a 2-mic element for 10 + years, has a vac gauge that reads about 3-4" Hg when things..... |
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Nov 19 2009 05:50 PM |
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Steve D.
Tony & group,
The discussion on this has been great, I´ve ordered a T-handle vacuum gauge for the Racor filter and I´m planning on working on the boat this weekend. I´m going to check the primary ..... |
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Nov 19 2009 10:08 PM |
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Jay Leonard
Vent is on the transom...could be blocked up with salt. That will shut you down. |
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General Diesel: General -
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Low revs or high revs? |
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Thu Nov 19 09 3:59 AM |
Nov 11 2009 10:36 AM |
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Brodde
When replacing an old engine with a new, does anyone have an idea if the new engine should be a high rev or a low rev? For example, in the segment 180-200hp Volvo seems to have high rev engines (4000 ..... |
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Nov 15 2009 12:24 PM |
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Brodde
Hi Paul and thanks for your reply.
Here´s the spec.
Boat:
GB 36 Classic (twin engines)
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Between 100 and 150 hrs per season
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6-7 kts. From www.yachtworks.info/en/motor..... |
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Nov 15 2009 03:20 PM |
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David Marchand
Brodde:
I don´t understand the speed/hp reference you posted. Either Beebe´s book (updated by Lieshman) or the calculator on this site, indicate about 50-60 hp (total) will be required to push this..... |
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Nov 16 2009 10:40 AM |
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Paul Foulston
Broddie,
I agree broadly with Davids comments.
Before you nail engine choice you need to think about brand support in your area.
Having done background work on dealers my thought processes wo..... |
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Nov 16 2009 11:24 AM |
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Karl
Tdanos - Disagree with your post and the calculation you present. The rotational speed of the crankshaft by itself has little (Nothing) to do with the service life of an engine.
Paul - Perhaps the ..... |
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Nov 16 2009 12:40 PM |
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Got Diesel
I myself would go with the Cummins, Engine price will be lower than the other, service parts will be lower, parts will be around in plenty way past the time I am dead. And after market part are alrea..... |
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Nov 16 2009 01:14 PM |
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Tomas Kempe
"Paul as he has done a lot of R & D on lowering the HP and fuel burn of the 6BT for you´re type of application"
This engine is rated at 210hp at 2600 rpm, what is the magic trick in lowerin..... |
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Nov 16 2009 01:22 PM |
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Got Diesel
As far as R & D ask Paul. Tomas as far as propping the engine does not need to see 2600 RPM. The engine does need to be set up not to be run in a over loaded condition. To expand on the propping if..... |
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Nov 16 2009 01:45 PM |
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Paul Foulston
Karl,
D4-180 agree totally, you know I am a common rail nut, forgot totally about that rating, however over here Volvo dealers tend to have a real blind side on low ratings of D4/6.
I had a deal..... |
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Nov 16 2009 02:30 PM |
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Ski in NC
Brodde- Another thing to consider is the type of sound that the engines create when cruising. Low rpm engines such as the Ford and Cummins will probably be at around 1800 rpm at hull speed. The Vol..... |
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Nov 16 2009 02:51 PM |
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Got Diesel
Tomas, you can think of it as re rating the engine for a lower HP and RPM. Tim |
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Nov 16 2009 04:11 PM |
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Ralph Salerno
Volvos are good engines but replacement parts cost triple of Cummins or anyone else. |
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Nov 16 2009 04:23 PM |
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Tomas Kempe
Tim I think I understand: Lets try this as an exercise made with up numbers - you have a gear ratio, prop size for rated at 210hp and 2800 or 2600?rpm. If you have access to the prop-fuel curve and po..... |
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Nov 19 2009 03:59 AM |
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Got Diesel
Tomas, You´re putting a lot more at me than I have time to reply to but, you know how to work the numbers but remenber it´s not the prop HP fuel cruve it´s the fuel, Lbs per fuel per HP per hour. yo..... |
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General Diesel:Fuel Systems -
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VOLVO KAD42PA loss of rpms after injection pump rebuild |
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Wed Nov 18 09 5:55 PM |
Nov 18 2009 03:53 AM |
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Oceanvibes
I have a KAD 42PA that had an injection pump issue, pump was leaking diesel around throttle pivot on pump and also causing a fuel knock after running at midrange to low speed for 5-8 hours. Had pump r..... |
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Nov 18 2009 04:34 AM |
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Ski in NC
Warranty issue. Talk to the shop that rebuilt the pump. They may have screwed something up. Or timing may be off from the re-installation. |
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Nov 18 2009 05:55 PM |
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Ed H
Double check that the banjo-fitting for the return line is of the restricted type (pin hole instead of the two or three large holes). If you swithed it with the fuel feed fitting on the pump during r..... |
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General Diesel:Mechanical -
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Volvo 41B and 41P Idle rpm |
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Wed Nov 18 09 3:37 PM |
Nov 18 2009 03:37 PM |
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Bryan Pearson
I bought a 31 Tiara with a pair of Volvo´s, one is a 41B and the other a 41P. What is the lowest rpm they will safely run? The tachs show 800rpm at idle in gear, but I will put a digital tach on them ..... |
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General Diesel: General -
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Volvo Continuous Rpm?? |
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Wed Nov 18 09 4:49 AM |
Nov 17 2009 03:39 AM |
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Raymond
I am talking with a broker about a boat with 1995 210HP 6 cyl volvos. I am trying to find out the model number to determine some performance figures but assume it is a 3900RPM engine. What kind of max..... |
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Nov 17 2009 11:45 PM |
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Ed
It all depends on how the boat is propped. If you are not familiar with this issue look up articles and posts on site. Even if you have a well propped boat running 200 off rated is not likely to give ..... |
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Nov 18 2009 04:49 AM |
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Raymond
Thank you for the reply. I have had two diesel boats with Yanmars but they were lower RPM engines. I am also familiar with Cummins 6btas but they are even lower RPM rated engines. The 3900 RPM rated e..... |
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General Diesel:Cooling Systems -
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Water pump leak |
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Wed Nov 18 09 4:43 AM |
Nov 17 2009 12:43 PM |
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Schizoman
I have a coolant leak at the circulating pump on my 6V92. It seems to be leaking from the leak hole indicating that the pump needs servicing. What kind of a job is it to remove the pump, also appx how..... |
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Nov 18 2009 04:43 AM |
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Mds
Generally when the pump is due for replacement then the hoses, clamps, thermostats, etc are due. 9 out of 10 times the hoses need to be replaced connecting the pump to the heat exchanger, oil cooler, ..... |
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General Diesel: General -
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Cat D333B No load and loaded WOT RPM? |
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Myles Bertram 25
Gday,
I thought I would repost here under the general section as no one has answered in the Cat section.
Can anyone advise the No Load and Load WOT RPM for a Cat D333B.
Thank you to all those t..... |
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General Diesel: General -
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Hynautic Control Systems |
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Sun Nov 15 09 8:26 PM |
Nov 15 2009 06:44 PM |
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Tony Athens
To Our Readers:
Has anyone experienced internal corrosion problems with the old type Ethylene Glycol type Hynautic Throttle/Transmission Controls systems that were sold in the last 3-7 years.. Typi..... |
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Nov 15 2009 08:26 PM |
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David DiSesa
I do a fair amount of work on these systems and never had any problems with the fluid other than some soft gel around the charging valves. |
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General Diesel: General -
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Engine Choice |
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Nov 13 2009 11:38 AM |
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Finalstorm
I am brand new to diesel engines. I am considering a DE boat, 33 feet, anticipated weight in the 12,000 lb range and would welcome input on an engine choice. A recent, similar launch on this boat us..... |
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Nov 14 2009 11:09 AM |
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F/V Robin Lyn
Finalstorm,
If you are seriously considering building a DE boat please do yourself a favor and consider Farrin´s Boatshop. http://www.farrinsboatshop.com/ They are only a couple of miles from..... |
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Nov 14 2009 01:36 PM |
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Ski in NC
I second the notion of keeping the weight out of the boat. The qsb is the heaviest engine I would consider for a 33 to cruise at 23kts, unless it is a big, beamy, already heavy 33. A qsb can be in l..... |
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Nov 14 2009 03:02 PM |
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Tony Athens
Final Storm,
The QSB has been so successful since it´s launch about 5 years ago that it just about rules the roost in this market size. The engine has ZERO issues, is simple to maintain with very i..... |
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Nov 14 2009 04:50 PM |
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Tomas Kempe
One of the problems shopping for a new Downeaster is that you rarely can try one out - I was able to do that in Canada and that what I choose. It is often a complicated coordination effort to get sche..... |
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Nov 14 2009 08:16 PM |
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Bill D l
OK, you guys have me all fired up.
Who wants to buy my "like new" 31 Blackfin Combi????
I´m going to call Ken Flowers Monday, have get me in line for the 33 and a QSB 480!!!!!!!!
LOL..... |
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Nov 14 2009 09:31 PM |
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Tk
Here´s a little 36´ to give you some speed weight perspective. 12.5k lb and 28knot cruise w/425hp. Pretty impressive!
http://www.judgeyachts.com/36Chesapeake/36Chesapeakeyacht_photos.html |
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Nov 15 2009 06:01 PM |
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Tomas Kempe
Only to clarify the difference between a Bay boat and a Downeaster. The Bay boat are great for the Bay, they are without exception hard chine boats that is great for the chop, they often lack keel or ..... |
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General Diesel:Oil Systems -
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Racor Oil Filter |
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Nov 14 2009 12:45 AM |
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Mike Lamb
Unable to locate the oil filter presently used on my bot. It is a Racor LFS 6028WCF 28 Micron wire cloth filter.
This was added on by the previous owner for some reason and phone calls have yielded n..... |
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Nov 14 2009 02:23 AM |
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Mds
What engine and application do you have? |
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Nov 14 2009 06:46 PM |
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Michael Lamb
I have an 1987 Izuzu 6cyl UM6BD1MTC-3 215hp turbo w/ 5800hrs. The boat is a 32ft downeast style lobster boat used for inshore fishing charters.
The boat was purchased through an estate sale and I wa..... |
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General Diesel: General -
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33 BlackFin |
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Randy
I am looking at sevferal 33/32 Blackfins. None of which have the same power configuations. Any thoughts/reservations on a particular set up? |
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Nov 14 2009 03:07 PM |
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Svendsenjoel
The Cat 3208 was a common engine in the 33, and it worked great, especially at 375HP. It is hard to fit at 3208 in a 32, so the original boats had a variety of engines, typically at around 300HP, whi..... |
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Nov 14 2009 04:37 PM |
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Bill D l
6BTA 370s in a 32 BF, sweet, very sweet.
I have a pr. in my 31 Combi |
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Need Coolant temp switch for temp alarm |
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Sat Nov 14 09 4:01 PM |
Nov 14 2009 02:59 AM |
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Pthein
I have been looking for a 3/8 thread 210 deg coolant temp switch - could even tolerate a 200 degree switch, but the issue is a 200 degree switch has a tolerance of +/- 12 degrees which is a 188 - 212 ..... |
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Nov 14 2009 03:14 AM |
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Got Diesel
- or + 12 is good most I can find and sell is 190-210, best to add a dry temp switch. @ 200 or so. Tim |
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Nov 14 2009 02:39 PM |
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Tony Athens
We are just now releasing these units.. They come pre-set and are adjustable (fine tuning) besides. N.O. & N.C., 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" NPT----Very high quality.
Tony |
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Nov 14 2009 04:01 PM |
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Got Diesel
Great product Tony, nothing else comes near it. |
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3208 HP identification??? |
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Oct 27 2009 06:01 PM |
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Raymond
The 3208 has at least 15 different HP variation, depending upon NA, T or TA configuration. There is a boat I am considering that has the 3208 and the broker says either a 330 or 350HP. Since there are..... |
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